. >> sean: remember john mccain did not look obama in the eye. i mean, if there's certain characteristics that you want to lay out for somebody heading into a debate, he's got to be presidential. probably can't call him a liar, but could point out broken promises, failed policies. >> "there you go again" works pretty well. >> sean: or some version thereof. i think people would like to see somebody -- i've never seen this president take a verbal punch. >> i also think people want to know that mitt romney can win the argument. i mean, i think part of the reason you see in the campaign in the doldrums a little bit for two weeks is that people want somebody who's going to stand and fight. margaret thatcher, prime minister thatcher, used to say, first you win the argument, then you win the vote. that's i think the challenge that romney faces. >> sean: mr. speaker, good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> sean: glad you're here. when we come back, a devastating new ad is coming up. we'll have that for you. it deals with the banghazi attacks. also th